The Science of Speaking 02 / 12 Output · Merrill Swain

The Canadian Kids Who Understood Everything and Said It Wrong

In the 1970s Canada ran one of the biggest language experiments ever attempted on children. It worked — up to a point.

English-speaking pupils were enrolled in French immersion programmes: mathematics in French, science in French, history in French, from their first year of school. By grade six they had spent seven years inside the language. Thousands of hours of input, from native speakers, about things that actually mattered to them.

On comprehension tests they performed close to native children. Then the researchers listened to them speak.

Fluent, confident, and wrong

Their French came out quickly and without embarrassment — and carried errors a native child of the same age would not make. Verb tenses drifted. Grammatical gender was close to a coin toss. Their written work showed the same pattern. Seven years of immersion had produced excellent receivers and mediocre producers.

Merrill Swain, a researcher at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, had been evaluating these programmes for years. In 1985 she published the conclusion that broke the consensus of the time: input is not enough. Something has to happen on the way out.

Speaking is not the reward at the end

Swain called it the output hypothesis. Understanding a language and producing it are not the same operation. When you listen, you can skip whatever you did not catch and still follow the story. Context fills the gaps for you. You never have to commit to anything.

Speaking removes the option of not knowing.

She identified three things output does that input cannot. It makes you notice what is missing — you reach for a word and find a hole where it should be. It makes you test a guess about the language and get a verdict on it. And it pushes you to talk about the language with the person in front of you, which is where corrections actually land.

The immersion pupils had very little reason to do any of that. In a class of thirty, a child speaks for seconds at a time, usually in short answers, and gets understood either way.

This is the uncomfortable finding for anyone who believes that moving abroad is a method. Exposure built their understanding. It did not build their accuracy, because nothing in their day forced them to get a sentence right.

What to take from it

  1. Measure your week in minutes spoken, not hours studied. They are different numbers and only one of them predicts whether you can hold a conversation.
  2. Pay attention to the holes. Every time you reach for a word and it is not there, that is the gap Swain was describing — write it down before it closes over.
  3. Speak somewhere your errors get answered, not merely tolerated. Being understood anyway is how the Canadian pupils stayed wrong for seven years.

This is why our Conversation Labs are capped at three to five people. Fewer people in the room means more turns each — and a moderator who has the time to tell you what you just got almost right.

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Sources

  • Swain, M. (1985). Communicative competence: Some roles of comprehensible input and comprehensible output in its development. In S. Gass & C. Madden (Eds.), Input in Second Language Acquisition (pp. 235–253). Rowley, MA: Newbury House.
  • Harley, B., & Swain, M. (1984). The interlanguage of immersion students and its implications for second language teaching. In A. Davies, C. Criper & A. Howatt (Eds.), Interlanguage (pp. 291–311). Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press.
  • Swain, M., & Lapkin, S. (1995). Problems in output and the cognitive processes they generate: A step towards second language learning. Applied Linguistics, 16(3), 371–391. doi.org/10.1093/applin/16.3.371
  • Krashen, S. (1998). Comprehensible output. System, 26(2), 175–182. Free PDF from the author

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